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			        Animal Rights

                          Frequently Asked Questions

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INTRODUCTION

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  Welcome to the Animal Rights Frequently Asked Questions text (AR FAQ).

This FAQ is intended to satisfy two basic goals: a) to provide a source

of information and encouragement for people exploring the issues involved

in the animal rights movement, and b) to answer the common questions and

justifications offered up by AR opponents. It is unashamedly an advocacy

vehicle for animal rights. Opponents of AR are invited to create a FAQ

that codifies their views; we do not attempt to do so here.

  The FAQ restricts itself specifically to AR issues; nutrition and

other vegetarian/veganism issues are intentionally avoided because they

are already well covered in the existing vegetarianism and veganism FAQs

maintained by Michael Traub. To obtain these FAQs, contact Michael at

his e-mail address given below.

  The FAQ was created through a collaboration of authors. The answers have

been attributed via initials, as follows:



    TA		Ted Altar               taltar@beaufort.sfu.ca

    JE		Jonathan Esterhazy	jester@cc.umanitoba.ca

    DG		Donald Graft		dgraft@gate.net

    JEH		John Harrington		jeh@bisoym.com

    DVH		Dietrich Von Haugwitz	vonha001@mc.duke.edu

    LJ          Leor Jacobi             leor@mellers1.psych.berkeley.edu

    LK		Larry Kaiser		lkaiser@umich.edu

    JK          Jeremy Keens		keens@pitvax.xx.rmit.edu.au

    BL		Brian Luke		luke@checkov.hm.udayton.edu

    PM		Peggy Madison		madison@alpha.acast.nova.edu

    BRO		Brian Owen		brian6@vaxc.middlesex.ac.uk

    JSD		Janine Stanley-Dunham	janine@wlb.hwwilson.com

    JLS		Jennifer Stephens	jlstephe@uncc.edu

    MT		Michael Traub		traub@btcs.bt.co.uk

    AECW	Allen ECW		aecw001@mayfair.demon.co.uk



  The current FAQ maintainer is Donald Graft (see address above). Ideas and

criticisms are actively solicited and will be very gratefully received. The

material included here is released to the public domain. We request that it

be distributed without alteration to respect the author attributions.

  This FAQ contains 96 questions. If they are not all present, then a mailer

has probably truncated it. Contact the FAQ maintainer for a set of split-up

files.

				DG





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GENERAL

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#1   What is all this Animal Rights (AR) stuff and why should

    it concern me?

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  The fundamental principle of the AR movement is that nonhuman animals

deserve to live according to their own natures, free from harm, abuse, and

exploitation. This goes further than just saying that we should treat

animals well while we exploit them, or before we kill and eat them. It

says animals have the RIGHT to be free from human cruelty and

exploitation, just as humans possess this right. The withholding of this

right from the nonhuman animals based on their species membership is

referred to as "speciesism".  

  Animal rights activists try to extend the human circle of respect and

compassion beyond our species to include other animals, who are also

capable of feeling pain, fear, hunger, thirst, loneliness, and kinship.

When we try to do this, many of us come to the conclusion that we can no

longer support factory farming, vivisection, and the exploitation of

animals for entertainment. At the same time, there are still areas of

debate among animal rights supporters, for example, whether ANY research

that harms animals is ever justified, where the line should be drawn for

enfranchising species with rights, on what occasions civil disobedience

may be appropriate, etc. However, these areas of potential disagreement do

not negate the abiding principles that join us:  compassion and concern

for the pain and suffering of nonhumans. 

  One main goal of this FAQ is to address the common justifications that

arise when we become aware of how systematically our society abuses and

exploits animals. Such "justifications" help remove the burden from our

consciences, but this FAQ attempts to show that they do not excuse the

harm we cause other animals. Beyond the scope of this FAQ, more detailed

arguments can be found in three classics of the AR literature. 



    The Case for Animal Rights, Tom Regan (ISBN 0-520-05460-1)

    In Defense of Animals, Peter Singer (ISBN 0-06-097044-8)

    Animal Liberation, Peter Singer (ISBN 0-380-71333-0, 2nd Ed.)



  While appreciating the important contributions of Regan and Singer, many

animal rights activists emphasize the role of empathetic caring as the

actual and most appropriate fuel for the animal rights movement in

contradistinction to Singer's and Regan's philosophical rationales. To the

reader who says "Why should I care?", we can point out the following

reasons: 



    One cares about minimizing suffering.

    One cares about promoting compassion in human affairs.

    One is concerned about improving the health of humanity.

    One is concerned about human starvation and malnutrition.

    One wants to prevent the radical disruption of our planet's ecosystem.

    One wants to preserve animal species.

    One wants to preserve wilderness.

 

  The connections between these issues and the AR agenda may not be obvious.

Please read on as we attempt to clarify this.

 				DG



  The day may come when the rest of the animal creation may acquire those

rights which never could have been withholden from them but by the hand

of tyranny.

				Jeremy Bentham (philosopher)



  Life is life--whether in a cat, or dog or man. There is no difference

there between a cat or a man. The idea of difference is a human

conception for man's own advantage...

				Sri Aurobindo (poet and philosopher)



  Non-violence leads to the highest ethics, which is the goal of all

evolution. Until we stop harming all other living beings, we are still

savages.

				Thomas Edison (inventor)



  The time will come when men such as I will look upon the murder of

animals as they now look on the murder of men.

				Leonardo Da Vinci (artist and scientist)



SEE ALSO #2-#3, #26, #87-#91



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#2   Is the Animal Rights movement different from the Animal Welfare

    movement? The Animal Liberation movement?

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  The Animal Welfare movement acknowledges the suffering of nonhumans and

attempts to reduce that suffering through "humane" treatment, but it does

not have as a goal elimination of the use and exploitation of animals. The

Animal Rights movement goes significantly further by rejecting the

exploitation of animals and according them rights in that regard. A person

committed to animal welfare might be concerned that cows get enough space,

proper food, etc., but would not necessarily have any qualms about killing

and eating cows, so long as the rearing and slaughter are "humane".

  The Animal Welfare movement is represented by such organizations as the

Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals, and the Humane Society.

  Having said this, it should be realized that some hold a broader

interpretation of the AR movement. They would argue that the AW groups do,

in fact, support rights for animals (e.g., a dog has the right not to be

kicked). Under this interpretation, AR is viewed as a broad umbrella

covering the AW and strict AR groups. This interpretation has the advantage

of moving AR closer to the mainstream. Nevertheless, there is a valid

distinction between the AW and AR groups, as described in the first paragraph.

  Animal Liberation (AL) is, for many people, a synonym for Animal Rights

(but see below). Some people prefer the term "liberation" because it brings

to mind images of other successful liberation movements, such as the movement

for liberation of slaves and liberation of women, whereas the term "rights"

often encounters resistance when an attempt is made to apply it to nonhumans.

The phrase "Animal Liberation" became popular with the publication of Peter

Singer's classic book of the same name.

  This use of the term liberation should be distinguished from the literal

meaning discussed in question #88, i.e., an Animal Liberationist is not

necessarily one who engages in forceful civil disobedience or unlawful

actions.

  Finally, intellectual honesty compels us to acknowledge that the account

given here is rendered in broad strokes (but is at least approximately

correct), and purposely avoids describing ongoing debate about the meaning

of the terms "Animal Rights", "Animal Liberation", and "Animal Welfare",

debate about the history of these movements, and debate about the actual

positions of the prominent thinkers. To depict the flavor of such debates,

the following text describes one coherent position. Naturally, it will be

attacked from all sides!

  Some might suggest that a subtle distinction can be made between the Animal

Liberation and Animal Rights movements. The Animal Rights movement, at least

as propounded by Regan and his adherents, is said to require total abolition

of such practices as experimentation on animals. The Animal Liberation

movement, as propounded by Singer and his adherents, is said to reject the

absolutist view and assert that in some cases, such experimentation can be

morally defensible. Because such cases could also justify some experiments

on humans, however, it is not clear that the distinction described reflects

a difference between the liberation and rights views, so much as it does a

broader difference of ethical theory, i.e., absolutism versus utilitarianism.

				DG



  Historically, animal welfare groups have attempted to improve the lot of

animals in society. They worked against the popular Western concept of

animals as lacking souls and not being at all worthy of any ethical

consideration. The animal rights movement set itself up as an abolitionist

alternative to the reform-minded animal welfarists. As the animal rights

movement has become larger and more influential, the animal exploiters have

finally been forced to respond to it. Perhaps inspired by the efforts of Tom

Regan to distinguish AR from AW, industry groups intent on maintaining the

status quo have embraced the term "animal welfare". Pro-vivisection,

hunting, trapping, agribusiness, and animal entertainment groups now refer

to themselves as "animal welfare" supporters. Several umbrella groups whose

goal is to defend these practices have also arisen.

  This classic case of public-relations doublespeak acknowledges the issue

of cruelty to animals in name only, while allowing for the continued use and

abuse of animals. The propaganda effect is to stigmatize animal rights

supporters as being extreme while attempting to portray themselves as the

reasonable moderates. Nowadays, the cause of "animal welfare" is invoked by

the animal industry at least as often as it is used by animal protection

groups.

				LJ



SEE ALSO: #1, #3, #87-#88



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#3   What exactly are rights and what rights can we give animals?

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  Despite arguably being the foundation of the Western liberal tradition,

the concept of "rights" has been a source of controversy and confusion

in the debate over AR. A common objection to the notion that animals have

rights involves questioning the origin of those rights. One such argument

might proceed as follows:



    Where do these rights come from? Are you in special communication

    with God, and he has told you that animals have rights? Have the

    rights been granted by law? Aren't rights something that humans

    must grant?



  It is true that the concept of "rights" needs to be carefully explicated.

It is also true that the concept of "natural rights" is fraught with

philosophical difficulties. Complicating things further is the confusion

between legal rights and moral rights. 

  One attempt to avoid this objection is to accept it, but argue that

if it is not an obstacle for thinking of humans as having rights, then it

should not be an obstacle for thinking of animals as having rights. Henry

Salt wrote:



    Have the lower animals "rights?" Undoubtedly--if men have. That is

    the point I wish to make evident in this opening chapter... The

    fitness of this nomenclature is disputed, but the existence of some

    real principle of the kind can hardly be called in question; so that

    the controversy concerning "rights" is little else than an academic

    battle over words, which leads to no practical conclusion. I shall

    assume, therefore, that men are possessed of "rights," in the sense

    of Herbert Spencer's definition; and if any of my readers object to

    this qualified use of the term, I can only say that I shall be

    perfectly willing to change the word as soon as a more appropriate

    one is forthcoming. The immediate question that claims our attention

    is this--if men have rights, have animals their rights also?



  Satisfying though this argument may be, it still leaves us unable to

respond to the sceptic who disavows the notion of rights even for humans.

Fortunately, however, there is a straightforward interpretation of

"rights" that is plausible and allows us to avoid the controversial

rights rhetoric and underpinnings. It is the notion that a "right" is the

flip side of a moral imperative. If, ethically, we must

refrain from an act performed on a being, then that being can be said to

have a "right" that the act not be performed. For example, if our ethics

tells us that we must not kill another, then the other has a right not to

be killed by us. This interpretation of rights is, in fact, an intuitive

one that people both understand and readily endorse. (Of course, rights so

interpreted can be codified as legal rights through appropriate

legislation.)

  It is important to realize that, although there is a basis for speaking

of animals as having rights, that does not imply or require that they

possess all the rights that humans possess, or even that humans possess all

the rights that animals possess. Consider the human right to vote. (On the

view taken here, this would derive from an ethical imperative to give humans

influence over actions that influence their lives.) Since animals lack the

capacity to rationally consider actions and their implications, and to

understand the concept of democracy and voting, they lack the capacity to

vote. There is, therefore, no ethical imperative to allow them to do so,

and thus they do not possess the right to vote.

  Similarly, some fowls have a strong biological need to extend and flap

their wings; right-thinking people feel an ethical imperative to make

it possible for them to do so. Thus, it can be said that fowl have the right

to flap their wings. Obviously, such a right need not be extended to humans.

  The rights that animals and humans possess, then, are determined by their

interests and capacities. Animals have an interest in living, avoiding pain,

and even in pursuing happiness (as do humans). As a result of the ethical

imperatives, they have rights to these things (as do humans). They can

exercise these rights by living their lives free of exploitation and

abuse at the hands of humans.

 				DG



SEE ALSO: #1-#2



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#4   Isn't AR hypocritical, e.g., because you don't give rights to

    insects or plants?

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  The general hypocrisy argument appears in many forms. A typical form

is as follows:



    "It is hypocritical to assert rights for a cow but not for a plant;

    therefore, cows cannot have rights."



  Arguments of this type are frequently used against AR. Not much

analysis is required to see that they carry little weight. First, one

can assert an hypothesis A that would carry as a corollary hypothesis

B. If one then fails to assert B, one is hypocritical, but this does

not necessarily make A false. Certainly, to assert A and not B would

call into question one's credibility, but it entails nothing about the

validity of A.

  Second, the factual assertion of hypocrisy is often unwarranted. In

the above example, there are grounds for distinguishing between cows

and plants (plants do not have a central nervous system), so the charge

of hypocrisy is unjustified. One may disagree with the criteria, but

assertion of such criteria nullifies the charge of hypocrisy.

  Finally, the charge of hypocrisy can be reduced in most cases to

simple speciesism. For example, the quote above can be recast as:



    "It is hypocritical to assert rights for a human but not for a plant;

    therefore, humans cannot have rights."



  To escape from this reductio ad absurdum of the first quote, one

must produce a crucial relevant difference between cows and humans,

in other words, one must justify the speciesist assignment of rights

to humans but not to cows. (In question #24, we apply a similar reduction

to the charge of hypocrisy related to abortion. For questions dealing

specifically with insects and plants, refer to questions #39 through #46.)

  Finally, we must ask ourselves who the real hypocrites are. The following

quotation from Michael W. Fox describes the grossly hypocritical treatment

of exploited versus companion animals.

				DG



  Farm animals can be kept five to a cage two feet square, tied up

constantly by a two-foot-long tether, castrated without anesthesia, or

branded with a hot iron. A pet owner would be no less than prosecuted for

treating a companion animal in such a manner; an American president was, in

fact, morally censured merely for pulling the ears of his two beagles.

				Michael W. Fox (Vice President of HSUS)



SEE ALSO: #24, #39-#46



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#5   What right do AR people have to impose their beliefs on others?

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  There is a not-so-subtle distinction between imposition of one's views

and advertising them. AR supporters are certainly not imposing their views

in the sense that, say, the Spanish Inquisition imposed its views, or the

Church imposed its views on Galileo. We do, however, feel a moral duty to

present our case to the public, and often to our friends and acquaintances.

There is ample precedent for this: protests against slavery, protests

against the Vietnam War, condemnation of racism, etc.

  One might point out that the gravest imposition is that of the exploiter

of animals upon his innocent and defenseless victims.

				DG



  If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what

they do not want to hear.

				George Orwell (author)



  I never give them hell. I just tell the truth and they think it's hell.

				Harry S. Truman (33rd U.S. President)



SEE ALSO: #11, #87-#91



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#6   Isn't AR just another facet of political correctness?

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  If only that were true! The term "politically correct" generally refers

to a view that is in sync with the societal mainstream but which some might

be inclined to disagree with. For example, some people might be inclined

to dismiss equal treatment for the races as mere "political correctness".

The AR agenda is, currently, far from being a mainstream idea.

  Also, it is ridiculous to suppose that a view's validity can be

overturned simply by attaching the label "politically correct" or

"politically incorrect".

				DG



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#7   Isn't AR just another religion?

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  No. The dictionary defines "religion" as the appeal to a supernatural

power. (An alternate definition refers to devotion to a cause; that is

a virtue that the AR movement would be happy to avow.)

  People who support Animal Rights come from many different religions

and many different philosophies. What they share is a belief in the

importance of showing compassion for other individuals, whether

human or nonhuman.

				LK



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#8   Doesn't it demean humans to give rights to animals?

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  A tongue-in-cheek, though valid, answer to this question is given by

David Cowles-Hamar: "Humans are animals, so animal rights are human rights!"

  In a more serious vein, we can observe that giving rights to women and

black people does not demean white males. By analogy, then, giving rights to

nonhumans does not demean humans. If anything, by being morally consistent,

and widening the circle of compassion to deserving nonhumans, we ennoble

humans. (Refer to question #26 for other relevant arguments.)

				DG



  The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way

its animals are treated.

				Mahatma Gandhi (statesman and philosopher)



  It is man's sympathy with all creatures that first makes him truly a man.

				Albert Schweitzer (statesman, Nobel 1952)



  For as long as men massacre animals, they will kill each other. Indeed, he

who sows the seed of murder and pain cannot reap joy and love.

				Pythagoras (mathematician)



SEE ALSO: #26



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#9   Weren't Hitler and Goebbels in favor of animal rights?

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  This argument is absurd and almost unworthy of serious consideration.

The questioner implies that since Hitler and Goebbels allegedly held views

supportive of animal rights (e.g., Hitler was a vegetarian for some time),

the animal rights viewpoint must be wrong or dubious.

  The problem for this argument is simple: bad people and good people can

both believe things correctly. Or put in another way, just because a person

holds one bad belief (e.g., Nazism), that doesn't make all his beliefs

wrong. A few examples suffice to illustrate this. The Nazis undertook smoking

reduction campaigns. Is it therefore dubious to discourage smoking?

Early Americans withheld respect and liberty for black people. Does that

mean that they were wrong in giving respect and liberty to others?

  Technically, this argument is an "ignoratio elenchus fallacy", arguing

from irrelevance.

  Finally, many scholars are doubtful that Hitler and Goebbels supported

AR in any meaningful way.

				DG



SEE ALSO: #54



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#10   Do you really believe that "a rat is a pig is a dog is a boy"?

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  Taken alone and literally, this notion is absurd. However, this

quote has been shamelessly removed from its original context and

misrepresented by AR opponents. The original context of the quote is

given below. Viewed within its context, it is clear that the quote

is neither remarkable nor absurd.

				DG



  When it comes to having a central nervous system, and the ability to

feel pain, hunger, and thirst, a rat is a pig is a dog is a boy.

				Ingrid Newkirk (AR activist)



SEE ALSO: #47





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ANIMALS AND MORALITY

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#11  There is no correct or incorrect in morals; you have yours and I

    have mine, right?

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  This position, known as moral relativism, is quite ancient but became

fashionable at the turn of the century, as reports on the customs of

societies alien to those found in Europe became available. It fell out of

fashion, after the Second World War, although it is occasionally revived.

Ethical propositions, we are asked to believe, are no more than statements

of personal opinion and, therefore, cannot carry absolute weight.

  The main problem with this position is that ethical relativists are

unable to denounce execrable ethical practices, such as racism. On what

grounds can they condemn (if at all) Hitler's ideas on racial purity?

Are we to believe that he was uttering an ethical truth when advocating

the Final Solution?

  In addition to the inability to denounce practices of other societies,

the relativists are unable to counter the arguments of even those whose

society they share. They cannot berate someone who proposes to raise

and kill infants for industrial pet food consumption, for example,

if that person sees it as morally sound. Indeed, they cannot articulate

the concept of societal moral progress, since they lack a basis for

judging progress. There is no point in turning to the relativists for

advice on ethical issues such as euthanasia, infanticide, or the use of

fetuses in research.

  Faced with such arguments, ethical relativists sometimes argue that

ethical truth is based on the beliefs of a society; ethical truth is

seen as nothing more than a reflection of societal customs and habits.

Butchering animals is acceptable in the West, they would say, because

the majority of people think it so.

  They are on no firmer ground here. Are we to accept that chattel

slavery was right before the US Civil War and wrong thereafter? Can all

ethical decisions be decided by conducting opinion polls?

  It is true that different societies have different practices that

might be seen as ethical by one and unethical by the other. However,

these differences result from differing circumstances. For example, in

a society where mere survival is key, the diversion of limited food to

an infant could detract significantly from the well-being of the

existing family members that contribute to food gathering. Given that,

infanticide may be the ethically correct course.

  The conclusion is that there is such a thing as ethical truth

(otherwise, ethics becomes vacuous and devoid of proscriptive force).

The continuity of thought, then, between those who reject the evils of

slavery, racial discrimination, and gender bias, and those who denounce

the evils of speciesism becomes striking.

				AECW



  Many AR advocates (including myself) believe that morality is relative.

We believe that AR is much more cogently argued when it is argued from the

standpoint of your opponent's morality, not some mythical, hard-to-define

universal morality. In arguing against moral absolutism, there is a very

simple objection: Where does this absolute morality come from? Moral

absolutism is an argument from authority, a tautology. If there were such

a thing as "ethical truth", then there must be a way of determining it, and

obviously there isn't. In the absence of a known proof of "ethical truth",

I don't know how AECW can conclude it exists.

  An example of the method of leveraging a person's morality is to ask the

person why he has compassion for human beings. Almost always he will agree

that his compassion does not stem from the fact that: 1) humans use language,

2) humans compose symphonies, 3) humans can plan in the far future, 4) humans

have a written, technological culture, etc. Instead, he will agree that it

stems from the fact that humans can suffer, feel pain, be harmed, etc. It is

then quite easy to show that nonhuman animals can also suffer, feel pain, be

harmed, etc. The person's arbitrary inconsistency in not according moral

status to nonhumans then stands out starkly.

				JEH



  There is a middle ground between the positions of AECW and JEH. One can

assert that just as mathematics is necessarily built upon a set of

unprovable axioms, so is a system of ethics. At the foundation of a system

of ethics are moral axioms, such as "unnecessary pain is wrong". Given

the set of axioms, methods of reasoning (such as deduction and induction),

and empirical facts, it is possible to derive ethical hypotheses. It is

in this sense that an ethical statement can be said to be true. Of course,

one can disagree about the axioms, and certainly such disagreement renders

ethics "relative", but the concept of ethical truth is not meaningless.

  Fortunately, the most fundamental ethical axioms seem to be nearly

universally accepted, usually because they are necessary for societies to

function. Where differences exist, they can be elucidated and discussed,

in a style similar to the "leveraging" described by JEH.

				DG



  To a man whose mind is free there is something even more intolerable

in the sufferings of animals than in the sufferings of man. For with the

latter it is at least admitted that suffering is evil and that the man

who causes it is a criminal. But thousands of animals are uselessly

butchered every day without a shadow of remorse. If any man were to

refer to it, he would be thought ridiculous. And that is the unpardonable

crime.

				Romain Rolland (author, Nobel 1915)



SEE ALSO: #5



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#12  The animals are raised to be eaten; so what is wrong with that?

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  This question has always seemed to me to be a fancy version of "But

we want to do these things, so what is wrong with that?" The idea that

an act, by virtue of an intention of ours, can be exonerated morally is

totally illogical.

  But worse than that, however, is the fact that such a belief is a

dangerous position to take because it can enable one to justify some

practices that are universally condemned. To see how this is so,

consider the following restatement of the basis of the question:

"Suffering can be excused so long as we breed them for the purpose."

Now, cannot an analogous argument be used to defend a group of

slave holders who breed and enslave humans and justify it by saying "but

they're bred to be our workers"? Could not the Nazis defend their

murder of the Jews by saying "but we rounded them up to be killed"?

				DG



  Shame on such a morality that is worthy of pariahs, and that fails to

recognize the eternal essence that exists in every living thing, and

shines forth with inscrutable significance from all eyes that see

the sun!

				Arthur Schopenhauer (philosopher)



SEE ALSO: #13, #61



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#13  But isn't it true that the animals wouldn't exist if we didn't raise

     them for slaughter?

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  There are two ways to interpret this question. First, the questioner

may be referring to "the animals" as a species, in which case the argument

might be more accurately phrased as follows:



    "The ecological niche of cows is to be farmed; they get continued

     survival in this niche in return for our using them."



Second, the questioner may be referring to "the animals" as individuals,

in which case the phrasing might be:



    "The individual cows that we raise to eat would not have had a

     life had we not done so."



We deal first with the species interpretation and then with the

individuals interpretation. The questioner's argument applies

presumably to all species of animals; to make things more concrete,

we will take cows as an example in the following text.

  It is incorrect to assert that cows could continue to exist only if

we farm them for human consumption. First, today in many parts of India

and elsewhere, humans and cows are engaged in a reciprocal and reverential

relationship. It is only in recent human history that this relationship

has been corrupted into the one-sided exploitation that we see today.

There IS a niche for cows between slaughter/consumption and extinction.

(The interested reader may find the book Beyond Beef by Jeremy Rifkin

quite enlightening on this subject.)

  Second, several organizations have programs for saving animals

from extinction. There is no reason to suppose that cows would not

qualify.

  The species argument is also flawed because, in fact, our intensive

farming of cattle results in habitat destruction and the loss of other

species. For example, clearing of rain forests for pasture has led to

the extinction of countless species. Cattle farming is destroying

habitats on six continents. Why is the questioner so concerned about

the cow species while being unconcerned about these other species?

Could it have anything to do with the fact that he wants to continue

to eat the cows?

  Finally, a strong case can be made against the species argument from

ethical theory. Arguments similar to the questioner's could be

developed that would ask us to accept practices that are universally

condemned. For example, consider a society that breeds a special race

of humans for use as slaves. They argue that the race would not exist

if they did not breed them for use as slaves. Does the reader accept

this justification?

  Now we move on to the individuals interpretation of the question. One

attempt to refute the argument is to answer as follows:



    "It is better not to be born than to be born into a life of

     misery and early death."



To many, this is sufficient. However, one could argue that the fact that the

life is miserable before death is not necessary. Suppose that the cows are

treated well before being killed painlessly and eaten. Is it not true that

the individual cows would not have enjoyed their short life had we not

raised them for consumption? Furthermore, what if we compensate the taking

of the life by bringing a new life into being?

  Peter Singer originally believed that this argument was absurd because

there are no cow souls waiting around to be born. Many people accept this

view and consider it sufficient, but Singer now rejects it because he accepts

that to bring a being to a pleasant life does confer a benefit on that being.

(There is extensive discussion of this issue in the second edition of Animal

Liberation.) How then are we to proceed?

  The key is that the AR movement asserts that humans and nonhumans have a

right to not be killed by humans. The ethical problem can be seen clearly

by applying the argument to humans. Consider the case of a couple that gives

birth to an infant and eats it at the age of nine months, just when their

next infant is born. A 9-month old baby has no more rational knowledge of

its situation or future plans than does a cow, so there is no reason to

distinguish the two cases. Yet, certainly, we would condemn the couple. We

condemn them because the infant is an individual to whom we confer the right

not to be killed. Why is this right not accorded to the cow? I think the

answer is that the questioner wants to eat it.

				DG



  It were much better that a sentient being should never have existed,

than that it should have existed only to endure unmitigated misery.

				Percy Bysshe Shelley (poet)



SEE ALSO: #12



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#14  Don't the animals we use have a happier life since they are fed and

    protected?

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  The questioner makes two assumptions here. First, that happiness or

contentment accrues from being fed and protected, and second, that

the animals are, in fact, fed and protected. Both of these premises can

be questioned.

  Certainly the animals are fed; after all, they must be fattened for

consumption.  It is very difficult to see any way that, say,

factory-farmed chickens are "protected".  They are not protected from

mutilation, because they are painfully debeaked. They are not protected

from psychological distress, because they are crowded together in

unnatural conditions. And finally, they are not protected from predation,

because they are slaughtered and eaten by humans.

  We can also question the notion that happiness accrues from feeding

and protection alone. The Roman galley slaves were fed and protected

from the elements; nevertheless, they would presumably trade their

condition for one of greater uncertainty to obtain happiness. The same

can be said of the slaves of earlier America.

  Finally, an ethical argument is relevant here. Consider again the

couple of question #13. They will feed and protect their infant up to

the point at which they consume it. We would not accept this as a

justification. Why should we accept it for the chicken?

				DG



SEE ALSO: #13



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#15  Is the use of service animals and beasts of burden considered

    exploitative?

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  A simple approach to this question might be to suggest that we all must

work for a living and it should be no different for animals. The problem is

that we want to look at the animals as like children, i.e., worthy of the

same protections and rights, and, like them, incapable of being morally

responsible. But we don't force children into labor! One can make a

distinction, however, that goes something like this: The animals are

permanently in their diminished state (i.e., incapable of voluntarily

assenting to work); children are not. We do not impose a choice of work for

children because they need the time to develop into their full adult and

moral selves. With the animals, we choose for them a role that allows them

to contribute; in return, we do not abuse them by eating them, etc. If this

is done with true concern that their work conditions are appropriate and not

of a sweat-shop nature, that they get enough rest and leisure time, etc.,

this would constitute a form of stewardship that is acceptable and beneficial

to both sides, and one that is not at odds with AR philosophy.

				DG



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#16  Doesn't the Bible give Humanity dominion over the animals?

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  It is true that the Bible contains a passage that confers on humanity

dominion over the animals. The import of this fact derives from the

assumption that the Bible is the word of God, and that God is the ultimate

moral authority. Leaving aside for the moment consideration of the meaning

of dominion, we can take issue with the idea of seeking moral authority from

the Bible. First, there are serious problems with the interpretation of

Biblical passages, with many verses contradicting one another, and with

many scholars differing dramatically over the meaning of given verses.

  Second, there are many claims to God-hood among the diverse cultures of

this world; some of these Gods implore us to respect all life and to not

kill unnecessarily. Whose God are we to take as the ultimate moral

authority?

  Finally, as Tom Regan observes, many people do not believe in a God and

so appeals to His moral authority are empty for such people. For such

people, the validity of judgments of the supposed God must be cross-checked

with other methods of determining reasonableness. What are the cross-checks

for the Biblical assertions?

  These remarks apply equally to other assertions of Biblical approval of

human practices (such as the consumption of animals).

  Even if we accept that the God of the Bible is a moral authority, we

can point out that "dominion" is a vague term, meaning "stewardship" or

"control over". It is quite easy to argue that appropriate stewardship

or control consists of respecting the life of animals and their right

to live according to their own nature. The jump from dominion to approval

of our brutal exploitation of animals is not contained in the cited

Biblical passage, either explicitly or implicitly.

				DG



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#17  Morals are a purely human construction (animals don't understand

    morals); doesn't that mean it is not rational to apply our morality

    to animals?

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  The fallaciousness of this argument can be easily demonstrated by making

a simple substitution: Infants and young children don't understand morals,

doesn't that mean it is not rational to apply our morality to them? Of course

not. We refrain from harming infants and children for the same reasons that

we do so for adults. That they are incapable of conceptualizing a system of

morals and its benefits is irrelevant.

  The relevant distinction is formalized in the concept of "moral agents"

versus "moral patients". A moral agent is an individual possessing the

sophisticated conceptual ability to bring moral principles to bear in

deciding what to do, and having made such a decision, having the free will

to choose to act that way. By virtue of these abilities, it is fair to hold

moral agents accountable for their acts. The paradigmatic moral agent is the

normal adult human being.

  Moral patients, in contrast, lack the capacities of moral agents and thus

cannot fairly be held accountable for their acts. They do, however, possess

the capacity to suffer harm and therefore are proper objects of consideration

for moral agents. Human infants, young children, the mentally deficient or

deranged, and nonhuman animals are instances of moral patienthood.

  Given that nonhuman animals are moral patients, they fall within the

purview of moral consideration, and therefore it is quite rational to accord

them the same moral consideration that we accord to ourselves.

				DG

  

SEE ALSO: #19, #23, #36



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#18  If AR people are so worried about killing, why don't they become

    fruitarians?

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  Killing, per se, is not the central concern of AR philosophy, which is

concerned with the avoidance of unnecessary pain and suffering. Thus, because

plants neither feel pain nor suffer, AR philosophy does not mandate

fruitarianism (a diet in which only fruits are eaten because they can be

harvested without killing the plant from which they issue).

				DG



SEE ALSO: #42-#46



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#19  Animals don't care about us; why should we care about them?

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  The questioner's position--that, in essence, we should give rights only

to those able to respect ours--is known as the reciprocity argument. It is

unconvincing both as an account of the way our society works and as a

prescription for the way it should work.

  Its descriptive power is undermined by the simple observation that we

give rights to a large number of individuals who cannot respect ours.

These include some elderly people, some people suffering from degenerative

diseases, some people suffering from irreversible brain damage, the

severely retarded, infants, and young children. An institution that, for

example, routinely sacrificed such individuals to test a new fertilizer

would certainly be considered to be grievously violating their rights.

  The original statement fares no better as an ethical prescription.

Future generations are unable to reciprocate our concern, for example, so

there would be no ethical harm done, under such a view, in dismissing

concerns for environmental damage that adversely impacts future

generations.

  The key failing of the questioner's position lies in the failure to

properly distinguish between the following capacities:



    The capacity to understand and respect others' rights (moral agency).

    The capacity to benefit from rights (moral patienthood).



  An individual can be a beneficiary of rights without being a moral

agent. Under this view, one justifies a difference of treatments of two

individuals (human or nonhuman) with an objective difference that is

RELEVANT to the difference of treatment. For example, if we wished to

exclude a person from an academic course of study, we could not cite the

fact that they have freckles. We could cite the fact that they lack

certain academic prerequisites. The former is irrelevant; the latter is

relevant. Similarly, when considering the right to be free of pain and

suffering, moral agency is irrelevant; moral patienthood IS relevant.

				AECW



  The assumption that animals don't care about us can also be

questioned. Companion animals have been known to summon aid when

their owners are in trouble. They have been known to offer comfort

when their owners are distressed. They show grief when their human

companions die.

				DG



SEE ALSO: #17, #23, #36



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#20  A house is on fire and a dog and a baby are inside. Which do you

    save first?

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  The one I choose to save first tells us nothing about the ethical

decisions we face. I might decide to save my child before I saved yours,

but this certainly does not mean that I should be able to experiment on

your child, or exploit your child in some other way. We are not in an

emergency situation like a fire anyway. In everyday life, we can choose to

act in ways that protect the rights of both dogs and babies.

				LK



   Like anyone else in this situation, I would probably save the one to

which I am emotionally more attached. Most likely it would be the child.

Someone might prefer to save his own beloved dog before saving the baby

of a stranger. However, as LK states above, this tells us nothing about

any ethical principles.

				DVH



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#21  What if I made use of an animal that was already dead?

-----------------------



  There are two ways to interpret this question. First, the questioner

might really be making the excuse "but I didn't kill the animal", or

second, he could be asking about the morality of using an animal that

has died naturally (or due to a cause unassociated with the demand for

animal products, such as a road kill). For the first interpretation, we

must reject the excuse. The killing of animals for meat, for example,

is done at the request (through market demand), and with the financial

support (through payment), of the end consumers. Their complicity is

inescapable. Society does not excuse the receiver of stolen goods because

he "didn't do the burglary".

  For the second interpretation, the use of naturally killed animals,

there seems to be no moral difficulty involved. Many would, for esthetic

reasons, still not use animal products thus obtained. (Would you use the

bodies of departed humans?) Certainly, natural kills cannot satisfy the

great demand for animal products that exists today; non-animal and

synthetic sources are required.

  Other people may avoid use of naturally killed animal products because

they feel that it might encourage a demand in others for animal products,

a demand that might not be so innocently satisfied.

				DG



  This can be viewed as a question of respect for the dead. We feel

innate revulsion at the idea of grave desecration for this reason.

Naturally killed animals should, at the very least, be left alone rather

than recycled as part of an industrial process. This was commonly

practiced in the past, e.g., Egyptians used to mummify their cats.

				AECW



  You have just dined, and however scrupulously the slaughterhouse is

concealed in the graceful distance of miles, there is complicity.

				Ralph Waldo Emerson (author)



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#22  Where should one draw the line: animals, insects, bacteria?

-----------------------



  AR philosophy asserts that rights are to be accorded to creatures that

have the capacity to experience pain, to suffer, and to be a "subject of

a life". Such a capacity is definitely not found in bacteria. It is

definitely found in mammals. There is debate about such animals as molluscs

and arthropods (including insects). One should decide, based upon available

evidence and one's own conscience, where the line should be drawn to adhere

to the principle of AR described in the first sentence.

  Questions #39 and #43 discuss some of the evidence relevant to drawing

the line.

				DG



SEE ALSO: #39, #43



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#23  If the killing is wrong, shouldn't you stop predators from killing

    other animals?

-----------------------



  This is one of the more interesting arguments against animal rights. We

prevent human moral patients from harming others, e.g., we prevent children

from hitting each other, so why shouldn't we do the same for nonhuman moral

patients (refer to question #17 for a definition of moral patienthood)? If

anything, the duty to do so might be considered more serious because

predation results in a serious harm--death.

  A first answer entails pointing out that predators must kill to survive;

to stop them from killing is, in effect, to kill them.

  Of course, we could argue that intervening on a massive scale to prevent

predation is totally impractical or impossible, but that is not morally

persuasive.

  Suppose we accept that we should stop a cat from killing a bird. Then we

realize that the bird is the killer of many snakes. Should we now reason

that, in fact, we shouldn't stop the cat? The point is that humans lack the

broad vision to make all these calculations and determinations.

  The real answer is that intervening to stop predation would destroy the

ecosystems upon which the biosphere depends, harming all of life on earth.

Over millions of years, the biosphere has evolved complex ecosystems that

depend upon predation for their continued functioning and stability. Massive

intervention by humans to stop predation would inflict serious and

incalculable harm on these ecosystems, with devastating results for all life.

  Even if we accept that we should prevent predation (and we don't accept

that), it does not follow that, because we do not, we are therefore justified

in exploiting moral patients ourselves. When we fail to stop widespread

slaughter of human beings in foreign countries, it does not follow that we,

ourselves, believe it appropriate to participate in such slaughter. Similarly,

our failure to prevent predation cannot be taken as justification of our

exploitation of animals.

				DG



SEE ALSO: #17, #19, #36, #64



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#24  Is the AR movement against abortion? If not, isn't that hypocritical?

-----------------------



  Attempts are frequently made to tie Animal Rights exponents to one side

or the other of the abortion debate. Such attempts are misguided. Claims

that adherence to the ethics of AR determine one's position on embryo

rights are plainly counter-intuitive, unless one is also prepared to argue

that being a defender of human rights compels one to a particular position

on abortion. Is it the case that one cannot consistently despise torture,

serfdom, and other barbaric practices without coming to a particular

conclusion on abortion? 

  AR defenders demand that the rights currently held by humans be extended

to all creatures similar in morally relevant ways. For example, since

society does not accept that mature, sentient human moral patients (refer

to question #17 for a brief description of the distinction between patients

and agents) may be routinely annihilated in the name of science, it

logically follows that comparable nonhuman animals should be given the same

protection. On the other hand, abortion is still a moot point. It is

plainly illogical to expect the AR movement to reflect anything other than

the full spectrum of opinion found in society at large on the abortion issue. 

  Fundamentally, AR philosophers are content with submitting sufficient

conditions for the attribution of rights to individuals, conditions that

explain the noncontroversial protections afforded today to humans. They

neither encourage nor discourage attempts to widen the circle of protection

to fetuses. 

				AECW



  There is a range of views among AR supporters on the issue of abortion

versus animal rights. Many people believe, as does AECW, that the issues 

of abortion and AR are unrelated, and that the question is irrelevant to the

validity of AR. Others, such as myself, feel that abortion certainly is

relevant to AR. After all, the granting of rights to animals (and humans)

is based on their capacity to suffer and to be a subject-of-a-life. It

seems clear that late-term fetuses can suffer from the abortion procedure.

Certain physiological responses, such as elevated heart rates, and the

existence of a functioning nervous system support this view.

  It also can be argued that the fetus is on a course to become a

subject-of-a-life, and that by aborting the fetus we therefore harm it.

Some counter this latter argument by claiming that the "potential" to

become subject-of-a-life is an invalid grounds for assigning rights, but

this is a fine philosophical point that is itself subject to attack. For

example, suppose a person is in a coma that, given enough time, will

dissipate--the person has the potential to be sentient again. Does the

person lose his rights while in the coma?

  While the arguments adduced may show that abortion is not irrelevant

to AR, they do not show that abortion is necessarily wrong. The reason

is that it is possible to argue that the rights of the fetus are in

conflict with the rights of the woman, and that the rights of the woman

dominate. All may not agree with this trade-off, but it is a consistent,

non-hypocritical stance that is not in conflict with AR philosophy.

  See question #4 for an analysis of hypocrisy arguments in general.

				DG



SEE ALSO: #4



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#25  Doesn't the ethical theory of contractarianism show that animals

    have no rights?

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  Contractarianism is an ethical theory that attempts to account for our

morality by appealing to implicit mutually beneficial agreements, or

contracts. For example, it would explain our refusal to strike each other

by asserting that we have an implied contract: "You don't hit me and I

won't hit you." The relevance of contractarianism to AR stems from the

supposition that nonhuman animals are incapable of entering into such

contracts, coupled with the assertion that rights can be attributed only

to those individuals that can enter into such contracts. Roughly, animals

can't have rights because they lack the rational capacity to assent to a

contract requiring them to respect our rights.

  Contractarianism is perhaps the most impressive attempt to refute the AR

position; therefore, it is important to consider it in some detail. It is

easily possible to write a large volume on the subject. We must limit

ourselves to considering the basic arguments and problems with them. Those

readers finding this incomplete or nonrigorous are advised to consult the

primary literature.

  We begin by observing that contractarianism fails to offer a compelling

account of our moral behavior and motives. If the average person is asked why

they think it wrong to steal from their neighbor, they do not answer that by

refraining from it they ensure that their neighbor will not steal from them.

Nor do they answer that they have an implicit mutual contract with their

neighbor. Instead of invoking contracts, people typically assert some variant

of the harm principle; e.g., they don't steal because it would harm the

neighbor. Similarly, we do not teach children that the reason why they should

not steal is because then people will not steal from them.

  Another way to point up the mismatch between the theory of contractarianism

and our actual moral behavior is to ask if, upon risking your own life to

save my child from drowning, you have done this as a result of a contractual

obligation. Certainly, one performs such acts as a response to the distress

of another being, not as a result of contractual obligations.

  Contractarianism can thus be seen as a theory that fails to account for our

moral behavior. At best, it is a theory that its proponents would recommend

to us as preferable. (Is it seen as preferable because it denies rights to

animals, and because it seems to justify continued exploitation of animals?)

  Arguably the most serious objection to contractarianism is that it can be

used to sanction arrangements that would be almost universally condemned.

Consider a group of very rich people that assemble and create a contract

among themselves the effect of which is to ensure that wealth remains in

their control. They agree by contract that even repressive tactics can be

used to ensure that the masses remain in poverty. They argue that, by virtue

of the existence of their contract, that they do no wrong. Similar contracts

could be drawn up to exclude other races, sexes, etc.

  John Rawls attempts to overcome this problem by supposing that the

contractors must begin from an "initial position" in which they are not yet

incarnated as beings and must form the contract in ignorance of their final

incarnation. Thus, it is argued, since a given individual in the starting

position does not know whether, for example, she will be incarnated as a rich

woman or a poor woman, that individual will not form contracts that are based

on such criteria. In response, one can begin to wonder at the lengths to

which some will go in creating ad hoc adjustments to a deficient theory. But

more to the point, one can turn around this ad hoc defense to support the AR

position. For surely, if individuals in the initial position are to be truly

ignorant of their destiny, they must assume that they may be incarnated as

animals. Given that, the contract that is reached is likely to include strong

protections for animals!

  Another problem with Rawls' device is that probabilities can be such that,

even given ignorance, contracts can result that most people would see as

unjust. If the chance of being incarnated as a slave holder is 90 percent, a

contract allowing slavery could well result because most individuals would

feel they had a better chance of being incarnated as a slave holder. Thus,

Rawls' device fails even to achieve its purpose.

  It is hard to see how contractarianism can permit movement from the status

quo. How did alleged contracts that denied liberty to slaves and excluded

women from voting come to be renegotiated?

  Contractarianism also is unable to adequately account for the rights we

give to those unable to form contracts, i.e., infants, children, senile

people, mental deficients, and even animals to some extent. Various means

have been advanced to try to account for the attribution of rights to such

individuals. We have no space to deal with all of them. Instead, we briefly

address a few.

  One attempt involves appealing to the interests of true rights holders.

For example, I don't eat your baby because you have an interest in it and I

wouldn't want you violating such an interest of mine. But what if no-one

cared about a given infant? Would that make it fair game for any use or

abuse? Certainly not. Another problem here is that many people express an

interest in the protection of all animals. That would seem to require others

to refrain from using or abusing animals. While this result is attractive to

the AR community, it certainly weakens the argument that contractarianism

justifies our use of animals.

  Others want to let individuals "ride" until they are capable of respecting

the contract. But what of those that will never be capable of doing so, e.g.,

senile people? And why can we not let animals ride?

  Some argue a "reduced-rights" case. Children get a reduced rights set

designed to protect them from themselves, etc. The problem here is that with

animals the rights reduction is way out of proportion. We accept that we

cannot experiment on infants or kill and eat them due to their reduced rights

set. Why then are such extreme uses acceptable for nonhumans?

  Some argue that it is irrelevant whether a given individual can enter into

a contract; what is important is their theoretical capacity to do so. But,

future generations have the capacity but clearly cannot interact reciprocally

with us, so the basis of contractarianism is gutted (unless we assert that we

have no moral obligations to leave a habitable world for future generations).

Peter Singer asks "Why limit morality to those who have the capacity to enter

into agreements, if in fact there is no possibility of their ever doing so?"

  There are practical problems with contractarianism as well. For example,

what can be our response if an individual renounces participation in any

implied moral contracts, and states that he is therefore justified in

engaging in what others would call immoral acts? Is there any way for us to

reproach him? And what are we to do about violations of the contract? If an

individual steals from us, he has broken the contract and we should therefore

be released from it. Are we then morally justified in stealing from him? Or

worse?

  In summary, contractarianism fails because a) it fails to accurately account

for our actual, real-world moral acts and motives, b) it sanctions contractual

arrangements that most people would see as unjust, c) it fails to account for

the considerations we accord to individuals unable to enter into contracts,

and d) it has some impractical consequences. Finally, there is a better

foundation for ethics--the harm principle. It is simple, universalizable,

devoid of ad hoc devices, and matches our real moral thinking.

				TA/DG



SEE ALSO: #11, #17, #19, #96





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PRACTICAL ISSUES

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#26  Surely there are more pressing practical problems than AR, such

    as homelessness; haven't you got better things to do?

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  Inherent in this question is an assumption that it is more important

to help humans than to help nonhumans. Some would dismiss this as a

speciesist position (see question #1). It is possible, however, to

invoke the scale-of-life notion and argue that there is greater suffering

and loss associated with cruelty and neglect of humans than with animals.

This might appear to constitute a prima-facie case for expending one's

energies for humans rather than nonhumans. However, even if we accept

the scale-of-life notion, there are sound reasons for expending time

and energy on the issue of rights for nonhuman animals.

  Many of the consequences of carrying out the AR agenda are highly

beneficial to humans. For example, stopping the production and consumption

of animal products would result in a significant improvement of the

general health of the human population, and destruction of the environment

would be greatly reduced.

  Fostering compassion for animals is likely to pay dividends in terms

of a general increase of compassion in human affairs. Tom Regan puts it

this way:



  ...the animal rights movement is a part of, not antagonistic to,

  the human rights movement. The theory that rationally grounds the

  rights of animals also grounds the rights of humans. Thus those

  involved in the animal rights movement are partners in the struggle

  to secure respect for human rights--the rights of women, for

  example, or minorities, or workers. The animal rights movement

  is cut from the same moral cloth as these.



  Finally, the behavior asked for by the AR agenda involves little

expenditure of energy. We are asking people to NOT do things: don't

eat meat, don't exploit animals for entertainment, don't wear furs.

These negative actions don't interfere with our ability to care for

humans. In some cases, they may actually make more time available for

doing so (e.g., time spent hunting or visiting zoos and circuses).

				DG



  Living cruelty-free is not a full-time job; rather, it's a way of life.

When I shop, I check ingredients and I consider if the product is tested

on animals. These things only consume a few minutes of the day. There is

ample time left for helping both humans and nonhumans.

				JLS



  I am in favor of animal rights as well as human rights. That is the

way of a whole human being.

				Abraham Lincoln (16th U.S. President)



  To my mind, the life of a lamb is no less precious than that of a

human being.

				Mahatma Gandhi (statesman and philosopher)



  Our task must be to free ourselves...by widening our circle of compassion

to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature and its beauty.

				Albert Einstein (physicist, Nobel 1921)



SEE ALSO: #1, #87, #95



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#27  If everyone became vegetarian and gave up keeping pets,

    what would happen to all the animals?

-----------------------



  As vegetarianism grows, the number of animals bred for food gradually

will decline, since the market will no longer exist for them.

Similarly, a gradual decrease would accompany the lessening demand for

the breeding of companion animals. In both cases, those animals that

remain will be better cared for by a more compassionate society.

				LK



SEE ALSO: #75



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#28  Grazing animals on land not suited for agriculture increases the food

    supply; how can that be considered wrong?

-----------------------



  There are areas in the world where grazing of livestock is possible but

agriculture is not. If conditions are such that people living in these

areas cannot trade for crops and must raise livestock to survive, few

would question the practice. However, such areas are very small in

comparison to the fertile and semi-arid regions currently utilized for

intensive grazing, and they do not appreciably contribute to the world

food supply. (Some would argue that it is morally preferable not to live in

such areas.)

  The real issue is the intensive grazing in the fertile and semi-arid

regions. The use of such areas for livestock raising reduces the world

food supply. Keith Acker writes as follows in his "A Vegetarian

Sourcebook":



    Land, energy, and water resources for livestock agriculture range

    anywhere from 10 to 1000 times greater than those necessary to

    produce an equivalent amount of plant foods.  And livestock

    agriculture does not merely use these resources, it depletes them.

    This is a matter of historical record. Most of the world's soil,

    erosion, groundwater depletion, and deforestation--factors now

    threatening the very basis of our food system--are the result of this

    particularly destructive form of food production.



  Livestock agriculture is also the single greatest cause of world-wide

deforestation both historically and currently (between 1967 and 1975,

two-thirds of 70 million acres of lost forest went to grazing). Between

1950 and 1975 the area of human-created pasture land in Central America

more than doubled, almost all of it at the expense of rain forests.

Although this trend has slowed down, it still continues at an alarming and

inexorable pace.

  Grazing requires large tracts of land and the consequences of

overgrazing and soil erosion are very serious ecological problems. By

conservative estimates, 60 percent of all U.S. grasslands are overgrazed,

resulting in billions of tons of soil lost each year. The amount of U.S.

topsoil lost to date is about 75 percent, and 85 percent of that is

directly associated with livestock grazing. Overgrazing has been the

single largest cause of human-made deserts.

  One could argue that grazing is being replaced by the "feedlot

paradigm". These systems graze the livestock prior to transport to a

feedlot for final "fattening" with grains grown on crop lands. Although

this does reduce grazing somewhat, it is not eliminated, and the feedlot

part of the paradigm still constitutes a highly inefficient use of crops

(to feed a human with livestock requires 16 times the grain that would be

necessary if the grain was consumed directly). It has been estimated that

in the U.S., 80 percent of the corn and 95 percent of the oats grown are

fed to livestock.

				TA



  I grew up in cattle country--that's why I became a vegetarian. Meat stinks,

for the animals, the environment, and your health.

				k.d. lang (musician)



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#29  If we try to eliminate all animals products, we'll be moving back to

    the Stone Age; who wants that?

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  On the contrary! It is a dependency upon animal products that could be

seen as returning us to the technologies and mind set of the Stone Age.

For example, Stone Age people had to wear furs in Northern climates to

avoid freezing. That is no longer the case, thanks to central heating

and the ready availability of plenty of good plant and human-made fabrics.

If we are to characterize the modern age, it could be in terms of the

greater freedoms and options made possible by technological advance and

social progress. The Stone Age people had few options and so were forced

to rely upon animals for food, clothing, and materials for their implements.

Today, we have an abundance of choices for better foods, warmer clothing,

and more efficient materials, none of which need depend upon the killing

of animals.

				TA



  It seems to me that the only Stone Age we are in any danger of entering

is that constituted by the continuous destruction of animals' habitats

in favor of the Portland-cement concrete jungle!

 				DG



SEE ALSO: #60, #62, #95



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#30  It's virtually impossible to eliminate all animal products from one's

    consumption; what's the point if you still cause animal death without

    knowing it?

-----------------------



  Yes, it is very difficult to eliminate all animal products from one's

consumption, just as it is impossible to eliminate all accidental killing

and infliction of harm that results from our activities. But this cannot

justify making it "open season" for any kind of abuse of animals. The

reasonable goal, given the realities, is to minimize the harms one causes.

The point, then, is that a great deal of suffering is prevented.

				DG



SEE ALSO: #57-#58



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#31  Wouldn't many customs and traditions, as well as jobs, be lost if

    we stopped using animals?

-----------------------



  Consider first the issue of customs and traditions. The plain truth is

that some customs and traditions deserve to die out. Examples abound

throughout history: slavery, Roman gladiatorial contests, torture, public

executions, witch burning, racism. To these the AR supporter adds animal

exploitation and enslavement.

  The human animal is an almost infinitely adaptable organism. The loss of

the customs listed above has not resulted in any lasting harm to

humankind. The same can be confidently predicted for the elimination of

animal exploitation. In fact, humankind would likely benefit from a

quantum leap of compassion in human affairs.

  As far as jobs are concerned, the economic aspects are discussed in

question #32. It remains to point out that for a human, what is at stake is

a job, which can be replaced with one less morally dubious. What is at

stake for an animal is the elimination of torture and exploitation, and

the possibility for a life of happiness, free from human oppression and

brutality.

				DG



  People often say that humans have always eaten animals, as if this is a

justification for continuing the practice. According to this logic, we

should not try to prevent people from murdering other people, since this

has also been done since the earliest of times.

				Isaac Bashevis Singer (author, Nobel 1978)



SEE ALSO: #32



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#32  The animal product industries are big business; wouldn't the economy

    be crippled if they all stopped?

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  One cannot justify an action based on its profitability. Many crimes and

practices that we view as repugnant have been or continue to be

profitable: the slave trade, sale of child brides, drug dealing, scams of

all sorts, prostitution, child pornography.

  A good example of this, and one that points up another key

consideration, is the tobacco industry. It is a multibillion-dollar

industry, yet vigorous efforts are proceeding on many fronts to put it out

of business. The main problem with it lies in its side-effects, i.e., the

massive health consequences and deaths that it produces, which easily

outweigh the immediate profitability. There are side effects to animal

exploitation also. Among the most significant are the pollution and

deforestation associated with large-scale animal farming. As we see in

question #28, these current practices constitute a nonsustainable use of

the planet's resources. It is more likely true that the economy will be

crippled if the practices continue!

  Finally, the profits associated with the animal industries stem from

market demand and affluence. There is no reason to suppose that this

demand cannot be gradually redirected into other industries. Instead of

prime beef, we can have prime artichokes, or prime pasta, etc. Humanity's

demand for gourmet food will not vanish with the meat. Similarly, the

jobs associated with the animal industries can be gradually redirected

into the industries that would spring up to replace the animal

industries. (Vice President Gore made a similar point in reference to

complaints concerning loss of jobs if logging was halted. He commented

that the environmental movement would open up a huge area for jobs that

had heretofore been unavailable.)

				DG



  It is my view that the vegetarian manner of living by its purely physical

effect on the human temperament would most beneficially influence the lot of

mankind.

				Albert Einstein (physicist, Nobel 1921)



SEE ALSO: #28, #31





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ARGUMENTS FROM BIOLOGY

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#33  Humans are at the pinnacle of evolution; doesn't that give them

    the right to use animals as they wish?

-----------------------



  This is one of many arguments that attempt to draw ethical conclusions

from scientific observations. In this case, the science is shaky, and the

ethical conclusion is dubious. Let us first examine the science.

  The questioner's view is that evolution has created a linear ranking of

general fitness, a ladder if you will, with insects and other "lower"

species at the bottom, and humans (of course!) at the top. This idea

originated as part of a wider, now discredited evolutionary system called

Lamarckism. Charles Darwin's discovery of natural selection overturned

this system. Darwin's picture, instead, is of a "radiating bush" of

species, with each evolving to adapt more closely to its environment,

along its own radius. Under this view, the idea of a pinnacle becomes

unclear: yes, humans have adapted well to their niche (though many would

dispute this, asserting the nonsustainable nature of our use of the

planet's resources), but so have bacteria adapted well to their niche. Can

we really say that humans are better adapted to their niche than bacteria,

and would it mean anything when the niches are so different?

  Probably, what the questioner has in mind in using the word "pinnacle"

is that humans excel in some particular trait, and that a scale can be

created relative to this trait. For example, on a scale of mental

capability, humans stand well above bacteria. But a different choice of

traits can lead to very different results. Bacteria stand "at the

pinnacle" when one looks at reproductive fecundity. Birds stand "at

the pinnacle" when one looks at flight.

  Now let us examine the ethics. Leaving aside the dubious idea of a

pinnacle of evolution, let us accept that humans are ranked at the top on

a scale of intelligence. Does this give us the right to do as we please

with animals, simply on account of their being less brainy? If we say yes,

we open a Pandora's box of problems for ourselves. Does this mean that

more intelligent humans can also exploit less intelligent humans as they

wish (shall we all be slaves to the Einsteins of the world)? Considering

a different trait, can the physically superior abuse the weak? Only a

morally callous person would agree with this general principle.

				AECW



SEE ALSO: #34, #37



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#34  Humans are at the top of the food chain; aren't they therefore

    justified in killing and eating anything?

-----------------------



  No; otherwise, potential cannibals in our society could claim the same

defense for their practice. That we can do something does not mean that it

is right to do so. We have a lot of power over other creatures, but with

great powers come even greater responsibilities, as any parent will

testify.

  Humans are at the top of the food chain because they CHOOSE to eat

nonhuman animals. There is thus a suggestion of tautology in the

questioner's position. If we chose not to eat animals, we would not be

at the top of the food chain.

  The idea that superiority in a trait confers rights over the inferior is

disposed of in question #33.

				AECW



SEE ALSO: #33



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#35  Animals are just machines; why worry about them?

-----------------------



  Centuries ago, the philosopher Rene Descartes developed the idea that

all nonhuman animals are automatons that cannot feel pain. Followers of

Descartes believed that if an animal cried out this was just a reflex,

the sort of reaction one might get from a mechanical doll. Consequently,

they saw no reason not to experiment on animals without anesthetics.

Horrified observers were admonished to pay no attention to the screams

of the animal subjects.

  This idea is now refuted by modern science. Animals are no more "mere

machines" than are human beings. Everything science has learned about

other species points out the biological similarities between humans and

nonhumans. As Charles Darwin wrote, the differences between humans and

other animals are differences of degree, not differences of kind. Since

both humans and nonhumans evolved over millions of years and share

similar nervous systems and other organs, there is no reason to think

we do not share a similar mental and emotional life with other animal

species (especially mammals).

				LK



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#36  In Nature, animals kill and eat each other; so why should it be wrong

    for humans?

-----------------------



  Predatory animals must kill to eat. Humans, in contrast, have a choice;

they need not eat meat to survive.

  Humans differ from nonhuman animals in being capable of conceiving of, and

acting in accordance with, a system of morals; therefore, we cannot seek

moral guidance or precedent from nonhuman animals. The AR philosophy asserts

that it is just as wrong for a human to kill and eat a sentient nonhuman as

it is to kill and eat a sentient human.

  To demonstrate the absurdity of seeking moral precedents from nonhuman

animals, consider the following variants of the question:



    "In Nature, animals steal food from each other; so why should it be

    wrong for humans [to steal]?"



    "In Nature, animals kill and eat humans; so why should it be wrong for

    humans [to kill and eat humans]?"

				DG



SEE ALSO: #23, #34, #64



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#37  Natural selection and Darwinism are at work in the world; doesn't

    that mean it's unrealistic to try to overcome such forces?

-----------------------



  Assuming that Animal Rights concepts somehow clash with Darwinian forces,

the questioner must stand accused of selective moral fatalism: our sense of

morality is clearly not modeled on the laws of natural selection. Why,

then, feel helpless before some of its effects and not before others? 

  Male-dominance, xenophobia, and war-mongering are present in many human

societies. Should we venture that some mysterious, universal forces must be

at work behind them, and that all attempts at quelling such tendencies should

be abandoned? Or, more directly, when people become sick, do we abandon them

because "survival of the fittest" demands it? We do not abandon them; and we

do not agonize about trying to overcome natural selection.

  There is no reason to believe that the practical implications of the Animal

Rights philosophy are maladaptive for humans. On the contrary, and for

reasons explained elsewhere in this FAQ, respecting the rights of animals

would yield beneficial side-effects for humans, such as more-sustainable

agricultural practices, and better environmental and health-care policies.

				AECW



  The advent of Darwinism led to a substitution of the idea of individual

organisms for the old idea of immutable species. The moral individualism

implied by AR philosophy substitutes the idea that organisms should be

treated according to their individual capacities for the (old) idea that it

is the species of the animal that counts. Thus, moral individualism actually

fits well with evolutionary theory.

				DG



SEE ALSO: #63-62



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#38  Isn't AR opposed to environmental philosophy (as described, for

    example, in "Deep Ecology")?

-----------------------



  No. It should be clear from many of the answers included in this FAQ, and

from perusal of many of the books referenced in question #92, that the

philosophy and goals of AR are complementary to the goals of the mainstream

environmental movement. Michael W. Fox sees AR and environmentalism as

two aspects of a dialectic that reconciles concerns for the rights of

individuals (human and nonhuman) with concerns for the integrity of the

biosphere.

  Some argue that a morality based on individual rights is necessarily

opposed to one based on holistic environmental views, e.g., the sanctity

of the biosphere. However, an environmental ethic that attributes some 

form of rights to all individuals, including inanimate ones, can be

developed. Such an ethic, by showing respect for the individuals that make

up the biosphere, would also show respect for the biosphere as a whole, thus

achieving the aims of holistic environmentalism. It is clear that a rights

view is not necessarily in conflict with a holistic view.

  In reference to the concept of deep ecology and the claim that it bears

negatively on AR, Fox believes such claims to be unfounded. The following

text is excerpted from "Inhumane Society", by Michael W. Fox.

				DG



  Deep ecologists support the philosophy of preserving the natural

abundance and diversity of plants and animals in natural ecosystems...

The deep ecologists should oppose the industrialized, nonsubsistence

exploitation of wildlife because...it is fundamentally unsound ecologically,

because by favoring some species over others, population imbalances and

extinctions of undesired species would be inevitable.

  In their book "Deep Ecology", authors Bill Devall and George Sessions...

take to task animal rights philosopher Tom Regan, who with others of like

mind "expressed concern that a holistic ecological ethic...results in a

kind of totalitarianism or ecological fascism"...In an appendix, however,

George Sessions does suggest that philosophers need to work toward

nontotalitarian solutions...and that "in all likelihood, this will require

some kind of holistic ecological ethic in which the integrity of all

individuals (human and nonhuman) is respected".

  Ironically, while the authors are so critical of the animal rights

movement, they quote Arne Naess (...arguably the founder of the deep

ecology movement)...For instance, Naess states: "The intuition of

biocentric equality is that all things in the biosphere have an equal

right to live and blossom and to reach their own forms of unfolding and

self-realization..."

				Michael W. Fox (Vice President of HSUS)



SEE ALSO: #28, #59





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INSECTS AND PLANTS

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#39  What about insects? Do they have rights too?

-----------------------



  Before considering the issue of rights, let us first address the

question "What about insects?". Strictly speaking, insects are small

invertebrate animals of the class Insecta, having an adult stage

characterized by three pairs of legs, a segmented body with three major

divisions, and usually two pairs of wings. We'll adopt the looser

definition, which includes similar invertebrate animals such as spiders,

centipedes, and ticks.

  Insects have a ganglionic nervous system, in contrast to the central

nervous system of vertebrates. Such a system is characterized by local

aggregates of neurons, called ganglia, that are associated with, and

specialized for, the body segment with which they are co-located. There

are interconnections between ganglia but these connections function not so

much as a global integrating pathway, but rather for local segmental

coordination. For example, the waves of leg motion that propagate along

the body of a centipede are mediated by the intersegmental connections.

  In some species the cephalic ganglia are large and complex enough to

support very complex behavior (e.g., the lobster and octopus). The

cuttlefish (not an insect but another invertebrate with a ganglionic

nervous system) is claimed by some to be about as intelligent as a dog.

  Insects are capable of primitive learning and do exhibit what many would

characterize as intelligence. Spiders are known for their skills and

craftiness; whether this can all be dismissed as instinct is arguable.

Certainly, bees can learn in a limited way. When offered a reward from a

perch of a certain color, they return first to perches of that color. They

also learn the location of food and transmit that information to their

colleagues. The learning, however, tends to be highly specialized and

applicable to only limited domains.

  In addition to a primitive mental life as described above, there is some

evidence that insects can experience pain and suffering. The earthworm

nervous system, for example, secretes an opiate substance when the

earthworm is injured. Similar responses are seen in vertebrates and are

generally accepted to be a mechanism for the attenuation of pain. On the

other hand, the opiates are also implicated in functions not associated

with analgesia, such as thermoregulation and appetite control. Nevertheless,

the association of secretion with tissue injury is highly suggestive.

  Earthworms also wriggle quite vigorously when impaled on a hook. In

possible opposition to this are other observations. For example, the

abdomen of a feeding wasp can be clipped off and the head may go on

sucking (presumably in no distress?).

  Singer quotes three criteria for deciding if an organism has the

capacity to suffer from pain: 1) there are behavioral indications, 2)

there is an appropriate nervous system, and 3) there is an evolutionary

usefulness for the experience of pain. These criteria seem to satisfied

for insects, if only in a primitive way.

  Now we are equipped to tackle the issue of insect rights. First, one

might argue that the issue is not so compelling as for other animals

because industries are not built around the exploitation of insects. But

this is untrue; large industries are built around honey production, silk

production, and cochineal/carmine production, and, of course, mass insect

death results from our use of insecticides. Even if the argument were

true, it should not prevent us from attempting to be consistent in the

application of our principles to all animals. Insects are a part of the

Animal Kingdom and some special arguments would be required to exclude

them from the general AR argument.

  Some would draw a line at some level of complexity of the nervous

system, e.g., only animals capable of operant conditioning need be

enfranchised. Others may quarrel with this line and place it elsewhere.

Some may postulate a scale of life with an ascending capacity to feel pain

and suffer. They might also mark a cut-off on the scale, below which

rights are not actively asserted. Is the cut-off above insects and the

lower invertebrates? Or should there be no cut-off? This is one of the

issues still being actively debated in the AR community.

  People who strive to live without cruelty will attempt to push the line

back as far as possible, giving the benefit of the doubt where there is

doubt. Certainly, one can avoid unnecessary cruelty to insects.

  The practical issues involved in enfranchising insects are dealt with in

the following two questions.

				DG



  I want to realize brotherhood or identity not merely with the beings

called human, but I want to realize identity with all life, even with

such things as crawl upon earth.

				Mahatma Gandhi (statesman and philosopher)



  What is it that should trace the insuperable line? ...The question

is not, Can they reason? nor, Can they talk? but, Can they suffer?

				Jeremy Bentham (philosopher)



SEE ALSO: #22, #40-#41, #47



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#40  Do I have to be careful not to walk on ants?

-----------------------



  The Jains of India would say yes! Some of their more devout members

wear gauze masks to avoid inhaling and killing small insects and

microbes. 

  Regardless of how careful we are, we will cause some suffering as a

side-effect of living. The goal is to avoid unnecessary suffering and

to minimize the suffering we cause. This is a far cry from wanton,

intentional infliction of cruelty. I refer here to the habit of some of

pulling off insects' wings for fun, or of torching a congregation of

ants for pleasure.

  This question is an issue for the individual conscience to decide. Perhaps

one need not walk around looking out for ants on the ground, but should one

be seen and it is easy to alter one's stride to avoid it, where is the harm

in doing so?

				DG



SEE ALSO: #39, #41



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#41  There is some evidence of consciousness in insects; aren't you

    descending to absurdity to tell people not to kill insects?

-----------------------



  Enfranchising insects does not mean it is never justifiable to kill

them. As with all threats to a being, the rule of self-defense applies.

If insects are threatening one's well-being in a nontrivial way, AR

philosophy would not assert that it is wrong to eliminate them.

  Pesticides and herbicides are often used for mass destruction of insect

populations. While this might be defended on the self-defense principle,

one should be aware of the significant adverse impact on the environment,

on other non-threatening animals, and indeed on our own health. (Refer to

question #59 for more on the use of insecticides.)

  It is not absurd to attempt to minimize the amount of suffering

that we inflict or cause.

				DG



  We should begin to feel for the flies and other insects struggling to

be free from sticky fly paper. There are humane alternatives.

				Michael W. Fox (Vice President of HSUS)



SEE ALSO: #39-#40, #59



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#42  Isn't it hypocritical to kill and eat plants?

-----------------------



  It would be hypocritical IF the same criteria or morally relevant

attributes that are used to justify animal rights also applied to

plants. The criteria cited by the AR movement are "pain and suffering"

and being "subjects-of-a-life". An assessment of how plants measure up

to these criteria leads to the following conclusions.

  First, our best science to date shows that plants lack any semblance

of a central nervous system or any other system design for such complex

capacities as that of conscious suffering from felt pain.

  Second, plants simply have no evolutionary need to feel pain. Animals

being mobile would benefit from the ability to sense pain; plants would

not. Nature does not gratuitously create such complex capacities as that

of feeling pain unless there is some benefit for the organism's

survival.

  The first point is dealt with in more detail in questions #43 and #44.

The general hypocrisy argument is discussed in question #4.

				TA



SEE ALSO: #4, #39-#44



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#43  But how can you prove that plants don't feel pain?

-----------------------



  Lest we forget the ultimate point of what follows, let us not forget the

central thesis of AR. Simply stated: to the extent other animals share

with us certain morally relevant attributes, then to that extent we confer

upon them due regard and concern. The two attributes that are arguably

relevant are: a) our capacity for pain and suffering, and b) the capacity

for being the "subject-of-a-life", i.e., being such that it matters to one

whether one's life fares well or ill.

  Both of these qualities require the existence of mental states. Also

note that in order to speak of "mental states" proper, we would denote, as

common usage would dictate, that such states are marked by consciousness.

It is insufficient to mark off mental states by only the apparent presence

of purposefulness or intentionality since, as we shall see below, many

material objects possess purposeful-looking behaviors.

  So then, how do we properly attribute the existence of mental states to

other animals, or even to ourselves for that matter? We cannot infer the

presence of felt pain simply by the presence of a class of behaviors that

are functional for an organism's amelioration or avoidance of noxious

stimuli. Thermostats obviously react to thermal changes in the environment

and respond in a functionally appropriate manner to restore an initial

"preferred" state. We would be foolish, however, to attribute to

thermostats a capability to "sense" or "feel" some kind of thermal "pain".

Even placing quotes around our terms doesn't protect us from absurdity.

  Clearly, the behavioral criterion of even functional avoidance/defense

reactions is simply not sufficient nor even necessary for the proper

attribution of pain as a felt mental state.

  Science, including the biological sciences, are committed to the working

assumption of scientific materialism or physicalism (see "The Metaphysical

Foundations of Modern Science", E. A. Burtt, 1924). We must then start

with the generally accepted scientific assumption that matter is the only

existent or real primordial constituent of the universe.

  Let it be said at the outset that scientific materialism as such does

not preclude the existence of emergent or functional qualities like that

of mind, consciousness, and feeling (or even, dare I say it, free will),

but all such qualities are dependent upon the existence of organized

matter. If there is no hardware, there is nothing for the software to run

on. If there is no intact, living brain, there is no mind. It should also

be said that even contemporary versions of dualism or mind-stuff theories

will also make embodiment of mental states dependent on the presence of

sufficiently organized matter.

  To briefly state the case, cognitive functions like consciousness and

mind are seen as emergent properties of sufficiently organized matter.

Just as breathing is a function of a complex system of organs referred to

as the respiratory system, so too is consciousness a function of the

immensely complex information-processing capabilities of a central nervous

system. It is possible, in theory, that future computers, given a

sufficiently complex and orderly organization of hardware and clever

software, could exhibit the requisite emergent qualities. While such

computers do not exist, we DO know that certain living organisms on this

planet possess the requisite complexity of specialized and highly

organized structure for the emergence of mental states.

  In theory, plants could possess a mental state like pain, but if, and

only if, there were a requisite complexity of organized plant tissue that

could serve to instantiate the higher order mental states of consciousness

and felt pain.

  There is no morphological evidence that such a complexity of tissue

exists in plants. Plants lack the specialized structures required for

emergence of mental states. This is not to say that they cannot exhibit

complex reactions, but we are simply over-interpreting such reactions if

we designate them as "felt pain".

  With respect to all mammals, birds, and reptiles, we know that they

possess a sufficiently complex neural structure to enable felt pain plus

an evolutionary need for such consciously felt states. They possess

complex and specialized sense organs, they possess complex and specialized

structures for processing information and for centrally orchestrating

appropriate behaviors in accordance with mental representations,

integrations, and reorganizations of that information. The proper

attribution of felt pain in these animals is well justified. It is not for

plants, by any stretch of the imagination.

				TA



  The absurdity (and often disingenuity) of the plant-pain promoters can be

easily exposed by asking them the following two questions:



    1) Do you agree that animals like dogs and cats should receive

       pain-killing drugs prior to surgery?

    2) Do you believe that plants should receive pain-killing drugs

       prior to pruning?

				DG



SEE ALSO: #42, #44



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#44  Aren't there studies that show that plants can scream, etc.?

-----------------------



  How can something without vocal apparatus scream? Perhaps the questioner

intends to suggest that plants somehow express feelings or emotions. This

notion is popularized in the book "The Secret Life of Plants", by Tompkins

and Bird, 1972. The book describes "experiments" in which plants are

claimed to respond to injury and even to the thoughts and emotions of

nearby humans. The responses consist of changes in the electrical

conductivity of their leaves. The truth is, however, that nothing but a

dismal failure has resulted from attempts to replicate these experiments.

For some definitive reviews, see Science, 1975, 189:478 and The Skeptical

Inquirer, 1978, 2(2):57.

  But what about plant responses to insect invasion? Does this suggest

that plants "feel" pain? No published book or paper in a scientific

journal has been cited as indeed making this claim that "plants feel

pain". There is interesting data suggesting that plants react to local

tissue damage and even emit signaling molecules serving to stimulate

chemical defenses of nearby plants. But how is this relevant to the claim

that plants feel and suffer from pain? Where are the replicated

experiments and peer-reviewed citations for this putative fact? There are

none.

  Let us, for the sake of argument, consider the form of logic employed by

the plant-pain promoters:



    premise 1:    Plants are responsive to "sense" impressions.

    premise 2:    As defined in the dictionary, anything

                  responsive to sense impressions is sentient.

    conclusion 1: Plants are sentient.

    premise 3:    Sentient beings are conscious of sense impressions.

    conclusion 2: Plants are conscious of sense impressions.

    premise 4:    To be conscious of a noxious stimuli is unpleasant.

    conclusion 3: Noxious stimuli to plants are unpleasant, i.e., painful.



  There is a major logical sleight-of-hand here. The meaning of the term

"sentient" changes between premise 2 ("responsive to sense impressions")

and premise 3 ("conscious of sense impressions"). Thus, equivocation on

the usage of "sentient" is used to bootleg the false conclusion 3. There

is also an equivocation on the meaning of "painful" ("unpleasant" versus

the commonly understood meaning).

				TA



  If we can bring ourselves to momentarily assume (falsely) that plants

feel pain, then we can easily argue that by eliminating animal farming,

we reduce the total pain inflicted on plants, leading to the ironic

conclusion that plant pain supports the AR position. This is discussed

in more detail in question #46.

				DG



SEE ALSO: #42-#43, #46



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#45  But even if plants don't feel pain, aren't you depriving them of

    their life? Why isn't that enough to accord moral status to plants?

-----------------------



  The philosophy of Animal Rights is generally regarded as encompassing

only sentient creatures. Plants are just one of many non-sentient, living

creatures. To remain consistent, granting moral status to plants would

lead one to grant it to all life. It may be thought that a philosophy

encompassing all life would be best, but granting moral status to all

living creatures leads to rather implausible views.

  For example, concern for life would lead one to oppose the distribution

of spermicides, even to overpopulated Third world countries. The morality

of any sexual intercourse could be questioned as well, since thousands of

sperm cells die in each act. Also, the sheer variety of life forms creates

difficulties; for example, arguments have been made to show that some

computer programs--such as computer viruses--may well be called alive.

Should one grant them moral status?

  There are questions even in the case of plants. The use of weed-killers

in a garden would need defending. And if killing plants is wrong, why

isn't merely damaging them in some other way also wrong? Is trimming

hedgerows wrong?

  The problems raised above are not attempts to discourage efforts to

develop an ethics of the environment. They simply point out that according

moral status to all living creatures is fraught with difficulties.

  Nevertheless, some people do, indeed, argue that the taking of life

should be minimized where possible; this constitutes a kind of moral

status for life. Interestingly, such a view, far from undermining the AR

view, actually supports it. To see why, refer to question #46.

				AECW



SEE ALSO: #46, #59



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#46  Isn't it better to eat animals, because that way you kill the least

    number of living beings.

-----------------------



  There are at least two problems with this question. First, there is the

assumption that killing is the factor sought to be minimized, but as

explained in question #18, killing is not the central concern of AR; rather,

it is pain and suffering, neither of which can be attributed to plants.

  Second, the questioner overlooks that livestock must be raised on a diet

of plant foods, so consumption of animals is actually a once-removed

consumption of plants. The twist, of course, is that passing plants through

animals is a very inefficient process; losses of up to 80-90 percent are

typical. Thus, it could be argued that, if one's concern is for killing,

per se, then the vegetarian diet is preferable (at least for today's

predominant feedlot paradigm).

				DG



SEE ALSO: #18, #28, #45



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#47  Nature is a continuum; doesn't that mean you cannot draw a line, and

    where you draw yours is no better than where I draw mine?

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  Most people will accept that the diversity of Nature is such that one is

effectively faced with a continuum. Charles Darwin was right to state that

differences are of degree, not of kind.

  One should take issue, however, with the belief that this means that a

line cannot be drawn for the purpose of granting rights. For example,

while there is a continuum in the use of force, from the gentle nudge of

the adoring mother to the hellish treatment visited upon concentration

camp prisoners, clearly, human rights are violated in one case and not the

other. People accept that the ethical buck stops somewhere between the two

extremes.

  Similarly, while it is true that the qualities relevant to the

attribution of rights are found to varying extents in members of the

animal kingdom, one is entitled to draw the line somewhere. After all,

society does it as well; today, it draws the line just below humans.

  Now, such a line (below humans) cannot be logically defensible, since

some creatures are excluded that possess the relevant qualities to a

greater degree than current rights-holders (for example, a normal adult

chimpanzee has a "higher" mental life than a human in a coma, yet we still

protect only the human from medical experimentation). Therefore, any line

that is drawn must allow some nonhuman animals to qualify as

rights-holders.

  Moreover, the difficulty of drawing a line does not by itself justify

drawing one at the wrong place. On the contrary, this difficulty means

that from an ethical point of view, the line should be drawn a) carefully,

and b) conservatively. Because the speciesist line held by AR opponents

violates moral precepts held as critical for the viability of any ethical

system, and because some mature nonhumans possess morally relevant

characteristics comparable to some human rights-bearers, one must come to

the conclusion that the status quo fails on both counts, and that the

arrow of progress points toward a moral outlook that encompasses nonhuman

as well as human creatures.

  In addition, it should be noted that when a new line is drawn that is

more in step with ethical truth (something quite easy to do), in no way

should one feel that the wanton destruction of non rights-holders is

thereby encouraged. It is desirable that a moral climate be created that

gives due consideration to the interests and welfare of all creatures,

whether they are rights-holders or not.

				AECW



  The idea that a continuum makes drawing a line impossible or that one

line is therefore no better than another is easily refuted. For example,

the alcohol concentration in the blood is a continuum, but society draws

a line at 0.10 percent for drunk driving, and clearly that is a better

line than one drawn at, say, 0.00000001 percent.

				DG



SEE ALSO: #22, #39-#41





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FARMING

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#48  The animals are killed so fast that they don't feel any pain or

    even know they're being killed; what's wrong with that?

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  This view can only be maintained by those unfamiliar with modern meat

production methods. Great stress occurs during transport in which

millions die miserably each year. And the conveyor-belt approach to the

slaughtering process causes the animals to struggle for their lives as

they experience the agony of the fear of death. Only people who have never

watched the process can believe that they don't feel any pain or aren't

aware that they're being killed.

  One point that many people are unaware of is that poultry is exempted from

the requirements of the Humane Slaughter Act. Egg-laying hens are typically

not stunned before slaughter. Also exempt from the act are animals killed

under Kosher conditions (see question #49).

  But even if no suffering were involved, the killing of sensitive,

intelligent animals on a vast scale (over six billion each year in the

U.S. alone) cannot be regarded as morally correct, especially since today

it is demonstrably clear that eating animal flesh is not only unnecessary

but even harmful for people. Fellow-mammals are not like corn or carrots.

To treat them as if they were is to perpetuate an impoverished morality

which is based not on rationality but merely tradition.

				DVH



  Even the climactic killing process itself is not so clean as one is led

to believe. Every method carries strong doubts about its "humaneness".

For example, consider electrocution. We routinely give anesthetics to

people receiving electro-shock therapy due to its painful effects.

Consider the pole-axe. It requires great skill to deliver a perfect,

instantly fatal blow. Few possess the skill, and many animals suffer from

the ineptness with which the process is administered. Consider Kosher

slaughter, where an animal is hoisted and bled to death without prior

stunning. Often joints are ruptured during the hoisting, and the death is

a slow, conscious one. The idea of a clean, painless kill is a fantasy

promulgated by those with a vested interest in the continuance of the

practices.

				DG



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#49  What is factory farming, and what is wrong with it?

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  Factory farming is an industrial process that applies the philosophy and

practices of mass production to animal farming. Animals are considered not as

individual sentient beings, but rather as a means to an end--eggs, meat,

leather, etc. The objective is to maximize output and profit. The animals

are manipulated through breeding, feeding, confinement, and chemicals to

lay eggs faster, fatten more quickly, or make leaner meat. Costs are

minimized by recycling carcasses through feed, minimizing unit space, not

providing bedding (which gets soiled and needs cleaning), and other

practices.

  Battery-hen egg production is perhaps the most publicized form. Hens are

"maintained" in cages of minimal size, allowing for little or no movement

and no expression of natural behavior patterns. Hens are painfully debeaked

and sometimes declawed to protect others in the cramped cage. There are no

floors to the cages, so that excrement can fall through onto a tray--the hens

therefore are standing on wire. Cages are stacked on top of each other in

long rows, and are kept inside a climate-controlled barn. The hens are then

used as a mechanism for turning feed into eggs. After a short, miserable life

they are processed as boiler chickens or recycled.

  Other typical factory farming techniques are used in pig production, where

animals are kept in concrete pens with no straw or earth, unable to move more

than a few inches, to ensure the "best" pork. When sows litter, piglets are

kept so the only contact between the sow and piglets is access to the teats.

The production of veal calves is a similar restraining process. The calves are

kept in narrow crates which prevent them from turning; they can only stand or

lie down. They are kept in the dark with no contact with other animals.

  Factory farming distresses people because of the treatment of the animals;

they are kept in unnatural conditions in terms of space, possible behaviors,

and interactions with other animals. Keeping animals in these circumstances

is not only cruel to the animals, but diminishes the humanity of those

involved, from production to consumption.

  In addition, the use of chemicals and hormones to maximize yields, reduce

health problems in the animals, and speed production may also be harmful to

human consumers.

				JK



SEE ALSO: #12, #14, #32, #48, #50



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#50  But cattle can't be factory-farmed, so I can eat them, right?

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  At this time, cattle farming has not progressed to the extremes inflicted

on some other animals--cows still have to graze. However, the proponents of

factory farming are always considering the possibilities of extending their

techniques, as the old-style small farm becomes a faded memory and farming

becomes a larger and more complex industry, competing for finance from

consumers and lenders. Cattle farming practices such as increasing cattle

densities on feedlots, diet supplementation, and controlled breeding are

already being implemented. Other developments will be introduced.

  However, as discussed in question #49, it is not only the method of

farming that is of concern. Transport to the slaughterhouse, often a long

journey in crowded conditions without access to food and water, and the wait

at the slaughterhouse followed by the slaughtering process are themselves

brutal and harmful. And the actual killing process is itself not necessarily

clean or painless (see question #48).

				JK



  We can challenge the claim that cattle cannot be factory-farmed; it just

isn't true. We can also challenge the claim that if it were true, it would

justify killing and eating cattle.

  A broad view of factory farming includes practices that force adaptations

(often through breeding) that increase the "productivity" of animal farming.

Such increases in productivity are invariably achieved at the expense of

increased suffering of the animals concerned. This broader view definitely

includes cattle, both that raised for meat and for dairy production.

  Veal production is paradigmatic factory farming. David Cowles-Hamar

describes it as follows: "Veal calves are kept in isolation in 5'x2' crates

in which they are unable even to turn around. They are kept in darkness much

of the time. They are given no bedding (in case they try to eat it) and are

fed only a liquid diet devoid of iron and fiber to keep their flesh anemic

and pale. After 3-5 months they are slaughtered."

  Dairy farming also qualifies as factory-farming. Here are some salient

facts:



    * Calves are taken away at 1-3 days causing terrible distress to both

      the cows and the calves; many calves go for veal production.



    * Over 170,000 calves die each year due to poor husbandry and appalling

      treatment at markets.



    * Cows are milked for 10 months and produce 10 times the milk a calf

      would take naturally. Mastitis (udder inflammation) frequently results.



    * Cows are fed a high-protein diet to increase yield; often even this is

      not enough and the cow is forced to break down body tissues, leading

      to acidosis and consequent lameness. About 25 percent of cows are

      afflicted.



    * At about 5 years of age, the cow is spent and exhausted and is

      slaughtered. The normal life span is about 20 years.



  Finally, we cannot accept that even if it were not possible to factory-farm

cattle, that therefore it is morally acceptable to kill and eat them. David

Cowles-Hamar puts it this way: "The suggestion that animals should pay for

their freedom with their lives is moral nonsense."

				DG



SEE ALSO: #14, #48-#49



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#51  But isn't it true that cows won't produce milk (or chickens lay

    eggs) if they are not content?

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  This is simply untrue. Lactation is a physiological response that

follows giving birth. The cow cannot avoid giving milk any more than

she can avoid producing urine. The same is true of chickens and egg-laying;

the egg output is manipulated to a high level by selective breeding,

carefully regulated conditions that simulate a continuous summer season,

and a carefully controlled diet.

  To drive this point home further, consider that over the last five

decades, the conditions for egg-laying chickens have become increasingly

unnatural and confining (see question #49), yet the egg output has increased

many times over. Chickens will even continue to lay when severely injured;

they simply cannot help it.

				DG



SEE ALSO: #49, #52, #55



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#52  Don't hens lay unfertilized eggs that would otherwise be wasted?

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  Yes, but that is no justification for imposing barbaric and cruel regimes

on them designed to artificially boost their egg production. If the

questioner is wondering if it is OK to use eggs left by free-range chickens

"to go cold", then the answer from the AR side is that free-range egg

production is not so idyllic as one might like to think (see question #55).

Also, such a source of eggs can satisfy only a tiny fraction of the demand.

				DG



SEE ALSO: #49, #51, #55



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#53  But isn't it true that the animals have never known anything better?

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  If someone bred a race of humans for slavery, would you accept their

excuse that the slaves have never known anything better? The point is that

there IS something better, and they are being deprived of it.

				DG



  Not having known anything better does not alleviate the suffering of the

animal. Its fundamental desires remain and it is the frustration of those

desires that is a great part of its suffering. There are so many examples:

the dairy cow who is never allowed to raise her young, the battery hen who

can never walk or stretch her wings, the sow who can never build a nest or

root for food in the forest litter, etc. Eventually we frustrate the animal's

most fundamental desire of all--to live.

				David Cowles-Hamar



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#54  Don't farmers know better than city-dwelling people about how

    to treat animals?

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  This view is often put forward by farmers (and their family members).

Typically they claim that, by virtue of proximity to their farmed animals,

they possess some special knowledge. When pressed to present this

knowledge, and to show how it can justify their exploitation of animals

or discount the animals' pain and suffering, only the tired arguments

addressed in this FAQ come forth. In short, there is no "special knowledge".

  One should also remember that those farmers who exploit animals have a

strong vested interest in the continuance of their practices. Would one

assert that a logger knows best about how the forests should be treated?

  Technically, this argument is an instance of the "genetic fallacy". Ideas

should be evaluated on their own terms, not by reference to the originators.

				DG



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#55  Can't we just eat free-range products?

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  The term "free-range" is used to indicate a production method in which the

animals are (allegedly) not factory-farmed but, instead, are provided with

conditions that allow them to fully express their natural behavior. Some

people feel that free-range products are thus ethically acceptable. There

are two cases to be considered: first, the case where the free-range animal

itself is slaughtered for use, and second, the case where the free-range

animal provides a product (typically, hens providing eggs, or cows providing

milk).

  Common to both cases is a problem with misrepresentation of conditions as

"free-range". Much of what passes for free-range is hardly any better than

standard factory-farming; a visit to a large "free-range egg farm" makes

that obvious (and see MT's comments below).

  Nutritionally, free-range products are no better than their factory-farmed

equivalents, which are wholly or partly responsible for a list of diseases as

long as your arm.

  For the case of free-range animals slaughtered for use, we must ask why

should a free-range animal be any more deserving of an unnecessary death than

any other animal? Throughout this FAQ, we have argued that animals have a

right to live free from human brutality. Our brutality cannot be excused by

our provision of a short happy life. David Cowles-Hamar puts it this way:

"The suggestion that animals should pay for their freedom with their lives

is moral nonsense." Another thing to think about is the couple described

at the end of question #13. Their babies are free-range, so it's OK to

eat them, right?

  For the case of products from free-range animals, we can identify at least

four problems: 1) it remains an inefficient use of food resources, 2) it is

still environmentally damaging, 3) animals are killed off as soon as they

become "unproductive", and 4) the animals must be replaced; the nonproductive

males are killed or go to factory farms (the worst instance of this is the

fate of male calves born to dairy cows; many go for veal production).

				BRO



  What's wrong with free-range eggs? To get laying hens you must have

fertile eggs and half of the eggs will hatch into male chicks. These are

killed at once (by gassing, crushing, suffocation, decompression, or

drowning), or raised as "table birds" (usually in broiler houses) and

slaughtered as soon as they reach an economic weight. So, for every

free-range hen scratching around the garden or farm (who, if she were able to

bargain, might pay rent with her daily infertile egg), a corresponding male

from her batch is enduring life in a broiler house or has already been

subjected to slaughter or thrown away to die. Every year in Britain alone,

more than 35 million day-old male chicks are killed. They are mainly used for

fertilizer or dumped in landfill sites.

  The hens are slaughtered as soon as their production drops (usually after

two years; their natural life span is 5-7 years). Also, be aware that many

sites classified as free-range aren't really free-range; they are just

massive barns with access to the outside. Since the food and light are

inside, the hens rarely venture outside.

				MT



SEE ALSO: #13, #49-#50, #52



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#56  Anything wrong with honey?

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  Bees are often killed in the production of honey, in the worst case the

whole hive may be destroyed if the keeper doesn't wish to protect them over

the winter. Not all beekeepers do this, but the general practice is one that

embodies the attitude that living things are mere material and have no

intrinsic value of their own other than what commercial value we can wrench

from them. Artificial insemination involving death of the male is now also

the norm for generation of new queen bees. The favored method of obtaining

bee sperm is by pulling off the insect's head (decapitation sends an

electrical impulse to the nervous system which causes sexual arousal). The

lower half of the headless bee is then squeezed to make it ejaculate. The

resulting liquid is collected in a hypodermic syringe.

				MT



SEE ALSO: #22, #39-#41



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#57  Don't crop harvest techniques and transportation, etc., lead to the

    death of animals?

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  The questioner's probable follow-up is to assert that since we perform

actions that result in the death of animals for producing crops, a form of

food, we should therefore not condemn actions (i.e., raising and slaughter)

that result in the death of animals for producing meat, another form of

food. How do we confront this argument?

  It is clear that incidental (or accidental, unintended) deaths of animals

result from crop agriculture. It is equally clear that intentional deaths of

animals result from animal agriculture. Our acceptance of acts that lead to

incidental deaths does not require the acceptance of acts that lead to

intentional deaths. (A possible measure of intentionality is to ask if the

success of the enterprise is measured by the extent of the result. In our

case, the success of crop agriculture is not measured by the number of

accidental deaths; in animal agriculture, conversely, the success of the

enterprise is directly measured by the number of animals produced for

slaughter and consumption.)

  Having shown that the movement from incidental to intentional is not

justified, we can still ask what justifies even incidental deaths. We must

realize that the question does not bear on Animal Rights specifically, but

applies to morality generally. The answer, stripped to its essentials, is

that the rights of innocents can be overridden in certain circumstances.

If rights are genuinely in conflict, a reasonable principle is to violate

the rights of the fewest.

  Nevertheless, when such an overriding of the rights of innocents is

done, there is a responsibility to ensure that the harm is minimized.

Certainly, crop agriculture is preferable to animal agriculture in this

regard. In the latter case, we have the added incidental harm due to

the much greater amount of crops needed to produce animals (versus feeding

the crops directly to people), AND the intentional deaths of the produced

animals themselves.

  Finally, many argue for organic and more labor-intensive methods of crop

agriculture that reduce incidental deaths. As one wag puts it, we have a

responsibility to survive, but we can also survive responsibly!

				DG



SEE ALSO: #58-#59



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#58  Modern agriculture requires us to push animals off land to convert

    it to crops; isn't this a violation of the animals' rights?

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  Pushing animals off their habitats to pursue agriculture is a less

serious instance of the actions discussed in question #57, which deals with

animal death as a result of agriculture. Refer to that question for

relevant discussion.

  An abiding theme is that vegetarianism versus meat eating, and crop

agriculture versus animal agriculture, tend to minimize the amount of

suffering. For example, more acreage is required to support animal

production than to support crop production (for the same nutritional

capability). Thus, animal production encroaches more on wildlife than does

crop agriculture. We cannot eliminate our adverse effects, but we can 

try to minimize them.

				DG



SEE ALSO: #57, #59



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#59  Don't farmers have to kill pests?

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  We could simply say that less pests are killed on a vegetarian diet and

that killing is not even necessary for pest management, but because the

issue is interesting, we answer more fully!

  This question is similar to question #57 in that the questioner's likely

follow-up is to ask why it is acceptable to kill pests for food but not to

kill animals for food. It differs from question #57 in that the defense

that the killing is incidental is not available because pests are killed

intentionally. We can respond to this argument in two ways. First, we can

argue that the killing is justifiable, and second, we can argue that it

is not necessary and should be avoided. Let's look at these in turn.

  Our moral systems typically allow for exceptions to the requirement that

we not harm others. One major exception is for self-defense. If we are

threatened, we have the right to use force to resist the threat. To the

extent that pests are a threat to our food supplies, our habitats, or

our health, we are justified in defending ourselves. We have the

responsibility to use appropriate force, but sometimes this requires

action fatal to the threatening creatures.

  Even if the killing of pests is seen as wrong despite the self-defense

argument, we can argue that crop agriculture should be preferred over

animal agriculture because it involves the minimization of the required

killing of pests (for reasons described in question #57).

  Possibly overshadowing these moral arguments, however, is the argument that

the use of pesticides, synthetic fertilizers, and herbicides is not only

not necessary but extremely damaging to the planet, and should therefore

be avoided. Let us first look at the issue of necessity, followed by the

issue of environmental damage.

  David Cowles-Hamar writes: "For thousands of years, peoples all over the

world have used farming methods based on natural ecosystems where potential

pest populations are self-regulating. These ideas are now being explored

in organic farming and permaculture." Michael W. Fox writes: "Integrated

pest management and better conservation of wilderness areas around crop lands

in order to provide natural predators for crop pests are more ecologically

sensible alternatives to the continuous use of pesticides." The point is

that there are effective alternatives to the agrichemical treadmill.

  In addition to the agricultural methods described above, many pest

problems can be prevented, certainly the most effective approach. For

example, some major pest threats are the result of accidental or intentional

human introduction of animals into a habitat. We need to be more careful

in this regard. Another example is the use of rodenticides. More effective

and less harmful to the environment would be an approach that relies on

maintenance of clean conditions, plugging of entry holes, and nonlethal

trapping followed by release into the wild.

  The effects of the intensive use of agrichemicals on the environment are

very serious. It results in nation-wide ground water pollution. It results

in the deaths of beneficial non-target species. The development of

resistant strains requires the use of stronger chemicals with resulting

more serious effects on the environment. Agrichemicals are generally more

h